El thread de la Unión Europea

Hace poco destapó el negocio de las tierras en Ucrania, al mismo tiempo que la izquierda europea :stuck_out_tongue:
Era lógico, se están rifando las mejores tierras. En algún momento habrá paz.

Hijo resentido de mierda, en tu puta vida vas a ser comparable con tu padre. Llore y patalee

Vos sos esto:

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Nosotros SI SOMOS UN EQUIPO GRANDE, Boca es Pueblo:

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Mientras tanto ustedes:

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Dejate de joder, Delem, ese Soros es un hijo de puta, jaja

la bronca entre rusos y ucranianos viene de hace muchisimo tiempo. Recordar que Stalin los cago de hambre en su momento. Yeltsin (ucraniano) fue el que termino de disolver la URSS.

El chocolatero tiene buena aceptacion en Europa y Estados Unidos, diria Susanita. Si hace falta, la mano va a llegar, pero primero esperan debilitar mas a Vladi, va a estar dificil

Seguro que es un hijo de puta, y la gente como él debe desaparecer del mapa. Le deseo el mismo destino que a todos los buitres y especuladores asociados. El tema es que debe tener algún problema particular, y salta por ego como los de su clase. Estos miserables gozan al mundo desde pantallas como Fox o CNN, exponiendo la “realidad” internacional y cómo deben moverse los gobiernos (para beneficio de sus propios intereses).
El drama del pueblo ucraniano es una realidad histórica, y no dudo con respecto al mismo Putin. Más allá de esto, en Ucrania vendieron espejitos de colores y los ciudadanos están pagando el error de confiar en siervos puestos a dedo. Con el sueño de escapar a la Europa más desarrollada, único motivo de celebración para un acercamiento a ella, cientos de miles perdieron todo. Los mismos que vivían en la miseria antes, a pesar de contar con las tierras más productivas del continente.

Hijo resentido de mierda, en tu puta vida vas a ser comparable con tu padre. Llore y patalee

Vos sos esto:

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Nosotros SI SOMOS UN EQUIPO GRANDE, Boca es Pueblo:

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Mientras tanto ustedes:

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Eres demasiado optimista. Creo que precisamente la forma actual del islam va a perdurar tal cual por al menos 100-200 años más.

Esta globalización no ha sido verdadera globalización, hombre. Económica sí, bélica sí. Política y cultural? Masomenos.

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A Putin no lo van a debilitar… Rusia tiene la ventaja de estar comprometida, y el orden de prioridades estatales de ellos es muy diferente al de Occidente.

Esto termina en guerra o en resolución diplomática, con Rusia obteniendo un buen acuerdo.

Soros en un gran jugador, relativamente un hijo de puta, pero es simplemente un tipo egoísta que tira el agua para su molino. Como todos, solo que a el le sale mejor que a nadie.

Los acuerdos de Minsk prevén la recuperación del control de la frontera con Rusia por Kiev y la descentralización del Estado, dijo una fuente en la presidencia ucraniana.

“Cláusulas claves: … un programa de restablecimiento del control ucraniano en la frontera con Rusia. Ninguna autonomía ni federalización. Solo la descentralización,” escribió el vicejefe de la administración presidencial de Ucrania, Valeri Chali, en su cuenta de Facebook.

La recuperación del control total de la frontera (con Rusia) en la zona de conflicto por parte de Kiev debe comenzar, en coordinación con las autoridades de las regiones de Donetsk y Lugansk, el día después de las elecciones locales y finalizar tras un arreglo político definitivo.

Ucrania se compromete a realizar una reforma constitucional y adoptar una nueva Constitución para finales de 2015. Asimismo, Kiev debe adoptar leyes sobre el estatus especial de algunos distritos de las regiones de Donetsk y Lugansk.

El jueves los presidentes de Rusia, Francia y Ucrania y la canciller de Alemania terminaron las negociaciones para arreglar la crisis ucraniana. La elaboración de los documentos destinados a reducir las tensiones en el este del país duró 16 horas.

El alto el fuego, inmediato y completo, deberá comenzar a partir de la medianoche del 15 de febrero, hora de Kiev (14 de febrero a las 22:00 GMT). La retirada de armamento pesado debe empezar dos días después del alto el fuego y durar como máximo 14 días.

Las nuevas sanciones antirrusas entrarán en vigor según lo previsto, dice Merkel

Las sanciones que la Unión Europea impuso a 19 personas y nueve entidades, incluidas las de Rusia, por la crisis ucraniana entrarán en vigor según lo previsto, el lunes 16 de febrero, anunció la canciller alemana, Angela Merkel, en una cumbre informal de la UE en Bruselas.

Las sanciones que la Unión Europea impuso a 19 personas y nueve entidades, incluidas las de Rusia, por la crisis ucraniana entrarán en vigor según lo previsto, el lunes 16 de febrero, anunció la canciller alemana, Angela Merkel, en una cumbre informal de la UE en Bruselas. “Sí”, se limitó a decir Merkel al responder a la pregunta correspondiente de un periodista. Además no descartó nuevas sanciones contra Rusia si se ve frustrada la implementación del más reciente acuerdo de Minsk sobre Ucrania.

“Si todo va bien estaremos dispuestos a acompañar este proceso (de implementación de los nuevos acuerdos sobre Ucrania); si hay dificultades no descartamos nuevas sanciones”, dijo Merkel a la prensa. También el presidente del Consejo Europeo, Donald Tusk, declaró que las sanciones individuales aprobadas esta semana entrarán en vigor el lunes próximo al tiempo de indicar que los líderes de la UE no han examinado nuevas sanciones este jueves.

Afirmó además que si el nuevo acuerdo de Minsk no se implementa “no tardaremos en dar pasos correspondientes”. Según Tusk, los líderes de la UE “aplauden cautelosamente” los acuerdos sobre ucrania alcanzados en Minsk este 12 de febrero.

Este jueves, en la capital bielorrusa concluyó una cumbre de los líderes de Alemania, Francia, Rusia y Ucrania –Angela Merkel, François Hollande, Vladímir Putin y Petró Poroshenko– durante la cual se acordó un alto el fuego en el este de Ucrania a partir de las 00.00 horas de Kiev del 15 de febrero, la retirada del armamento pesado por los bandos del conflicto en Donbás en el transcurso de dos semanas y una reforma constitucional en Ucrania hasta finales de este año que garantice una descentralización y por lo consiguiente un estatus especial de Donbás.

Excelente infografía que expone las sanciones a Rusia:

Gano por afano la derecha tory conservadora de Cameron en el Reino Unido.

Que envidia, igual ojo que es mala palabra decir derecha en este pais

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Los nacionalistas de Escocia ganaron por goleada además.

Y eso que los que miran mal a los de derecha no están para nada a la izquierda…

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Eso esta muy claro, pero bue la monada compra

Se acordaron un poquito tarde, los escoceses, ja.

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Salió una nota en el Lemonde de este mes muy recomendable sobre el tema Alemania y la situación en Europa. Vale la pena comprarlo.

Mirá [MENTION=6157]Riversito75[/MENTION]; ¿Qué está pasando en Pirateland con los inmigrantes? En muchos diarios, incluyendo los más liberales o de tendencia progre, están apareciendo notas como esta todo el tiempo:

How the invasion of immigrants into every corner of England has made a mockery of PM’s promise to close the door

-The greatest mass migration in our history has taken place
-Revolutionaries of the Sixties to blame for seeing immigrants as allies
-Rather than them adapting to our lifestyle, we are adapting to theirs

Was this Britain? Every group of people I passed was speaking Russian. The shops were full of black bread, pickled cucumbers and vodka, the faces were Slavic. The advertisements in the windows were in the Cyrillic script I had come to know so well when I lived, many years before, in Moscow.

Yet here I was in the shadow of a lovely English Gothic church tower, half-way to dear old Skegness, surrounded by fields of English turnips, leeks and sugar beet, under an English heaven.

This was Boston, Lincolnshire, which I had first seen three decades ago as a somnolent, slightly shabby market town where a kindly traffic warden had found me a parking space, saying: ‘We can always find room for a foreigner’. Nota: Hablemos de rusos primero, así no nos joden con esas huevadas del racismo :stuck_out_tongue:

In those days, a visitor from London was about as foreign as it got in Boston. Now they were talking Portuguese in the pubs, Polish in the cafes, Latvian and Estonian on the buses. If I had fallen into the river and called out ‘Help!’, I couldn’t even have been sure that anyone would have understood.

Somehow this transformation was more of a shock, more disturbing and perplexing, than any of the other migration-driven changes I had seen. And that tended to be the attitude of the older residents – not anger, hatred or hostility, we are not like that – but bafflement that such a huge thing could have erupted into their peaceful lives, without anyone warning or asking them.

We had all got used to London being different, long ago. The former mill towns of Yorkshire and Lancashire, with their huge new mosques and veiled women, were a place apart. But Lincolnshire? If it could come here, into Deep England, then it would come to everywhere.

It really is not much good the Prime Minister turning round now and saying to the people of Boston ‘this must stop’. Even if anyone believed he can or will do anything (and his various schemes are as firmly based as Theresa May’s promises to get rid of Abu Qatada), the event has happened.

The greatest mass migration in our history has taken place. The newcomers are lawfully here. They have the jobs, live in the houses, use the NHS. Their children are in the schools. Come to that, they are paying tax.

Our leaders only had to go to Boston, any time in the past five years, and they would have known. But all our leading politicians were afraid of knowing the truth. If they knew, they would at least have to pretend to act. And the truth was, they liked things as they were.

And it was at least partly my own fault. When I was a Revolutionary Marxist, we were all in favour of as much immigration as possible. It wasn’t because we liked immigrants, but because we didn’t like Britain. We saw immigrants – from anywhere – as allies against the staid, settled, conservative society that our country still was at the end of the Sixties. Also, we liked to feel oh, so superior to the bewildered people – usually in the poorest parts of Britain – who found their neighbourhoods suddenly transformed into supposedly ‘vibrant communities’. If they dared to express the mildest objections, we called them bigots.

Revolutionary students didn’t come from such ‘vibrant’ areas (we came, as far as I could tell, mostly from Surrey and the nicer parts of London). We might live in ‘vibrant’ places for a few (usually squalid) years, amid unmown lawns and overflowing dustbins.

But we did so as irresponsible, childless transients – not as homeowners, or as parents of school-age children, or as old people hoping for a bit of serenity at the ends of their lives. When we graduated and began to earn serious money, we generally headed for expensive London enclaves and became extremely choosy about where our children went to school, a choice we happily denied the urban poor, the ones we sneered at as ‘racists’.

What did we know, or care, of the great silent revolution which even then was beginning to transform the lives of the British poor? To us, it meant patriotism and tradition could always be derided as ‘racist’. And it also meant cheap servants for the rich new middle-class, for the first time since 1939, as well as cheap restaurants and – later on – cheap builders and plumbers working off the books.

It wasn’t our wages that were depressed, or our work that was priced out of the market. Immigrants didn’t do the sort of jobs we did. They were no threat to us. The only threat might have come from the aggrieved British people, but we could always stifle their protests by suggesting that they were modern-day fascists.

I have learned since what a spiteful, self-righteous, snobbish and arrogant person I was (and most of my revolutionary comrades were, too).

I have seen places that I knew and felt at home in, changed completely in a few short years. I have imagined what it might be like to have grown old while stranded in shabby, narrow streets where my neighbours spoke a different language and I gradually found myself becoming a lonely, shaky-voiced stranger in a world I once knew, but which no longer knew me.

I have felt deeply, hopelessly sorry that I did and said nothing in defence of those whose lives were turned upside down, without their ever being asked, and who were warned very clearly that, if they complained, they would be despised outcasts. And I have spent a great deal of time in the parts of Britain where the revolutionary unintelligentsia don’t go. Such people seldom, if ever, visit their own country. Their orbits are in fashionable London zones, and holiday destinations. They are better acquainted with the Apennines of Italy than with the Pennines of their own country.

But, unlike me, most of the Sixties generation still hold the views I used to hold and – with the recent, honourable exception of David Goodhart, the Left-wing journalist turned Think Tank boss who recognises he was wrong – they will not change.

The worst part of this is the deep, deep hypocrisy of it. Even back in my Trotskyist days I had begun to notice that many of the migrants from Asia were in fact not our allies. They were deeply, unshakably religious. They were socially conservative. Their attitudes towards girls and women were, in many cases, close to medieval. Nota2: Epa! Aparecieron los que preocupan de verdad, que no son polacos o lituanos porque suelen tener hijas más lindas que las nuestras… y de paso no andan pensando en volterarse a las nuestras, que de por sí son bastante facilongas :P.

Many of them were horribly hostile to Jews, in a way which we would have condemned fiercely if anyone else had expressed it, but which we somehow managed to forgive and forget in their case.

We have recently seen this in the distressing and embarrassing episode of Lord Ahmed’s outburst against a phantom Jewish conspiracy.

But I recall ten years ago, in a Muslim bookshop in the backstreets of Burnley, seeing on open display a modern edition of Henry Ford’s revolting anti-Jewish diatribe The International Jew, long ago disowned by Ford himself. It is unthinkable that any mainstream shop in any High Street could sell this toxic tripe.

Many of these new arrivals, though we revolutionaries welcomed them, knew and cared nothing of the great liberal causes we all supported. Or they were hostile to them.

Many on the Left still lie to themselves about this. George Galloway, the most Left-wing MP in Parliament, owes his seat to the support of conservative Muslims. Yet he voted in favour of same-sex marriage. It would be interesting to be at any meetings where Mr Galloway discusses this with his constituents.

Of course, all political parties are compromises, but there is a big difference between splitting the difference and flatly ignoring a profound clash of principles.

This sort of cynicism has been at the heart of the deal. Immigrants have been used by those who wanted to transform the country. They have taken the parts of them they liked, and made much of them. They have ignored the parts they did not like.

Mr Galloway likes the Muslims’ opposition to the Iraq War and their scorn for New Labour (and good luck to him). But he does not like their views on sexual morality.

The same is true of many others. One of the most striking characteristics of the majority of migrants from the Caribbean is their strong, unashamed Christian faith, and their love of disciplined education.

Yet the arrival of many such people in London was never used as a reason to say our society should become more Christian, or our schools should be better-ordered.

At that time, the revolutionary liberals were hoping to wave goodbye to the Church, and were busy driving discipline out of the state schools. So nobody ever said ‘Let us adapt our society to the demands of these newcomers’. They had the wrong sort of demands.

Instead, the authorities made much of the behaviour of a minority of such migrants, often much disliked by their fellow Afro-Caribbeans – men who took and sold illegal drugs and who were not prepared to respect British law. If proper policing of such people could be classified as ‘racist’, then the drug laws as a whole could be weakened, and the police placed under liberal control.

This is why the so-called ‘Brixton Riots’ of April 1981 were used as a lever to weaken the police and undermine the drug laws, rather than as a reason to restore proper law and peace to that part of London.

Something very similar happened with the Macpherson Report into the murder of Stephen Lawrence. Few noticed that the report openly urged that people from different ethnic groups should be policed in different ways – and actually condemned ‘colour-blind’ policing.

In whose interests was this? And wasn’t this attitude, that different types of behaviour could be expected from different ethnic groups, racially prejudiced? But what did that matter, if it suited the revolutionary liberal agenda of purging the police of old-fashioned conservative types? The same forces destroyed Ray Honeyford, a Bradford headmaster who – long before it was fashionable – tried to stand up against political correctness in schools. He was driven from his job and of course condemned as a ‘racist’.

Yet it would have been very much in the interests of integration and real equality in Bradford if his warnings had been heeded and acted upon. As it is, as any observant visitor finds, Bradford’s Muslim citizens and its non-Muslim citizens live in two separate solitudes, barely in contact with each other. Much of the Islamic community is profoundly out of step with modern Britain.

Once again, revolutionary liberals had formed a cynical alliance to destroy conservative opposition.

Their greatest ally has always been the British Tory politician Enoch Powell who, in a stupid and cynical speech in 1968, packed with alarmist language and sprinkled with derogatory expressions and inflammatory rumour, defined debate on the subject of immigration for 40 years.

bueno,al final chipras entrego los cantos y se va…

tiro pimienta y abandono

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Nunca tuvo mandato popular para salir del euro, NUNCA.

Claro, los griegos piensan que pueden volver al pasado, resolver la crisis y mantenerse en el euro. Son boludos (?)